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David Blunkett, who introduced the idea of identity cards when Home Secretary, will issue a stark warning to the Government tomorrow that it is in danger of abusing its power by taking Britain towards a “Big Brother” state.

At the 21st annual law lecture in Essex University’s Colchester campus, Mr Blunkett will urge ministers to rethink policy and counter criticism from civil liberties campaigners that Labour is creating a “surveillance society.”

He will come out against the Government’s controversial plan to set up a database holding details of telephone calls and emails and its proposal to allow public bodies to share personal data with each other.

His surprise intervention will be welcomed by campaign groups, who regard him as a hardliner because of his strong backing for a national ID card scheme and tough anti-terror laws. The former home secretary will propose a U-turn on ID cards for British citizens, although he agrees with plans to make them compulsory for foreign nationals.

Instead, holding a passport would become compulsory for all British people, who could choose to “opt in” to the ID card scheme if they wished.

Mr Blunkett will insist Labour has got the balance between liberty and security broadly right. But he will argue that it has unwittingly given ammunition to its critics by allowing legislation to be used for wider purposes than originally intended.

For example, the 2000 Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, intended to bring in proper rules and oversight, resulted in the “absurdity” of council officials using it to tackle dog fouling and monitor household waste.

Mr Blunkett will urge the Justice Secretary, Jack Straw, to water down provisions in the Coroners and Justice Bill on data sharing between public bodies. He will warn: “It is not simply whether the intentions are benign, undoubtedly they are, but whether they are likely to be misused and above all what value their use may have.”

He “remains to be convinced” about plans of the Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, for a giant central database to store records of phone calls, text messages and the websites people access.

Mr Blunkett will argue that people’s rights are already being breached – not by the Government but by “private enterprise surveillance and intrusion, coupled with data theft, fraud and information and data insecurity”. He will call for the Information Commissioner to be given greater powers in these areas.

He insists that Britain is not yet a surveillance state but will warn ministers: “The strength of our democracy is that we are able to challenge when the well-meaning, but sometimes misguided, take their own knowledge of the threats we face to be justification for protecting our mutual interest at the expense of our individual freedom. If we tolerate the intolerable, the intolerable gradually becomes the norm.”

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Yeeeees. Riot. Burn The Banks.
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:58 AM
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Default Fuck off you Anarchist TWAT!

Burn the banks,

Fuck off, keep the banks!

Burn the Bloody BANKERS!


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(no murder intended or implied)
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That's a thought, will we need banks in a cashless society if there is no money to keep in them?
And what has this thread got to do with the banks anyway?
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Default Good point Nost

Back to the point of the post.

Keep the banks because they can be used as trendy wine bars or a doss-house for the homeless.

Check this perspective out:




I always said National socialism looks very much like Left Wing shit!

There is very little difference between Red fascism (Communism) & blue fascism (NAZISM)
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Default One could do with your opinion please Mr Nost Dude.

What do you make of this chaps perspective on the political spectrum?

I question if the Fascist bastards are lefties. But its a spectrum, maybe we need a 3D picture to express the real complexity.

I suspect his model is too linear, it should be a second differential curve.
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They are pulling the oldest tricks in the book.

Two steps forward, one step back - but it always head towards the tyranny.

Etc.

Its a Totalitarian Tiptoe, Blunkett has sussed its about to kick off and is warning his chums whilst trying to repair his shattered reputation with leftist thinkers.

I say - let them have it!
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:49 PM
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Default Let them have it:-

Peace and Love that is.

Give them so much love & peace it will overload.

Sure, why not?

Have a "Love" Riot!

Were we want to kiss and hug these stupid ninis!
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What do you make of this chaps perspective on the political spectrum?

I question if the Fascist bastards are lefties. But its a spectrum, maybe we need a 3D picture to express the real complexity.

I suspect his model is too linear, it should be a second differential curve.
Victor, I think this guy might be a bit sweeping with his political spectrum.
I just cannot see how Socialism, Fascism and Nazism fit within the same spectrum, Fascism and Nazism and maybe even Communism may fit within the same spectrum to an extent, but not Socialism, or at least not my own form of Socialism with regard to the rights of the workers and human rights generally which socialism tends to recognise.
Whereas, Fascism and Nazism and sometimes even Communism taken to the extreme can and have been known to disregard.
From my own point of view I would say that we are ruled by a corporate and banking oligarchy, and that is whether we live in a monarchy, or even if we were to live under a republic or a so called democratic system.
It makes no difference in my view under a globalist system because the pyramid still has an apex, except today the pyramid is global and any system will be answerable to those at the top of the apex.
The question is however, do we accept a global form of governance or do we go backwards and split up once again into separate countries and states which could also be fraught with dangers that an advanced technological world might bring.
What worked in the past might not work today, but does that mean that I personally would want globalisation controlled by a corporate elite? no way, there has to be a balance and the corporations in my opinion are still run by the same old greed by the very same kind of people that were raping and pillaging the villages and towns just a few miles down the road from his lordships castle.
Same shit different time frame, except the chessboard just got bigger.
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