Indymedia UK used as a platform for fascists?

Sounds crazy I know, but anti-semitic content has been allowed to run rife on Indymedia UK. The latest incident has provoked outrage from Indymedia users, and is currently being ignored by Indymedia moderators.

The fascists filth in question is here http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/12/416057.html?c=on

Be sure to read the comments as Indymedia users demand this racism to be removed.

[initiatrix]

Firstly, go and look up what a fascist is in the dictionary.

Then go look up the difference between a jew and a zionist and then check your post.

Being anti-zionist is not anti-jew, just as calling for "the zionist regime to vanish from the pages of history" is not the same as calling for "Israel to be wiped off the map".

Get with the facts and not some half assed media crap that you've been fed with.

The article is clearly racist. Zionism might be this or it might be that, but the article in question is antisemitic.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The article is clearly racist. Zionism might be this or it might be that, but the article in question is antisemitic.

your evidence ?

Read The Fcking Thing

[initiatrix]

Having "read the fcking thing" and even having "read the comments as Indymedia users demand this racism to be removed", I notice that many of the comments do not support your theory of antisemitism, and the article itself is anti-Zionist, not racist or anti-semitic.

If your theory that the article is racist is correct, I can only deduce that the writer, James Petras is very bad at it.

Perhaps he needs some training from real, professional racists like these ones:

“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.”
David Ben Gurion.

"When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle."
Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.

"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."
Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, tells students at Bar Ilan University, From the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.

The Palestinians are "..beasts walking on two legs."
Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, 'Begin and the "Beasts"', New Statesman, 25 June 1982.

"We Jews, thank God, have nothing to do with the East. . . . The Islamic soul must be broomed out of Eretz-Yisrael. . . . [Muslims are] yelling rabble dressed up in gaudy, savage rags." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 29)
Ze'ev Jabotinsky.

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Here is one of the most shocking quotes from Jabotinsky, where he clearly demonstrates his racism against the original Jews, the Sephardic Jews who were related to the line of David; he himself being an Ashkenazi jew, that is, not related in any way to Moses, King David or Solomon.

“Internationally, we will announce that those Jews who do not remove the rust of the exile from themselves and refuse to shave their beard and sidelocks (payos) will be second class citizens. They will not be given the right to vote." (From "Outside the encampment" Ha'aretz Newspaper Oct 22, 1919)

Now that last quote is blatantly anti-semitic. Or at the very least, anti original Jew, that is, one who is actually related to the line of David.

The evidence falls on the side of Mr. Petras not being a racist.

Zionism is NOT a religion, it is a political perspective which uses Religion to hid behind and help promote its dogma just like the NAZIS in Germany did!

Just look what the evil Zionists are doing to both the people who live in Israel and those who live in GAZA etc!

Would a Jewish person do those things? NO! NO! NO!

These Zionist Bastards are modern day NAZIS!

The are Atheist Nationalists.

This is NOT ANTI Semitism it is ANTI NAZI!

[ZingPao]

Originally Posted by initiatrix

Firstly, go and look up what a fascist is in the dictionary.

Then go look up the difference between a jew and a zionist and then check your post.

Being anti-zionist is not anti-jew, just as calling for "the zionist regime to vanish from the pages of history" is not the same as calling for "Israel to be wiped off the map".

Get with the facts and not some half assed media crap that you've been fed with.

Fascism is an authoritarian or totalitarian nationalist ideology. It is concerned with solving the perceived problems of national decline or decadence, by achieving a millenarian national rebirth, calling for the subordination of individual self-interest to the interests of the nation or race, and promoting cults of unity, strength and purity. Fascists typically seek to form a mass movement of militants who are willing to engage in violence against their perceived enemies. Fascism opposes communism, conservatism, democracy, individualism, internationalism, international socialism, laissez faire capitalism, liberalism, materialism, pacifism, and political pluralism. Some fascists see themselves as advocating a third position alternative to both capitalism and communism.

Zionism is an international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra'el, "the Land of Israel"), and continues primarily as support for the modern state of Israel.

A Jew is a member of the Jewish people, or one who practices Judaism.

Still confused? Islam = evil. Israel is doing what they have to. Islamic states and organizations refuse to respect Israel's right to exist.

If some large organization decided your people did not have the right to exist what would you do? Sit still while they remove your head? I doubt it. You would fight, just as Israel does and is doing.

Don't feel sorry for the Hamas in Gaza. Go to wikipedia.coma and do some studying. Not only do the Palestinians kill the people of Israel, but they like to kill their own. Don't take my word for it, do some research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IsLam

I do have a lot of sympathy with what you say Zing, and to a large degree it is true what you say, but there are hard liners in every state, and both Arabs and Israelis have their fair share of extremist elements.


Take for example the rocketing of Israel - that is Evil and done by extremist elements and not all of the rockets are coming from the Arab side lets not forget that.

How can any decent state condone the bombing of civilian targets by F16s?


It is ALL EVIL - so to say the Israelis are some how "the victim" is only half the story.

The fact is:

The military industrial complex is busy stirring up trouble and stirring up business.


And it was the Israelis who broke this ceasefire lets not forget.

Remember who it was who trained and sold weapons to the Georgians to kill south Ossetians only two months ago? Its the same criminals at play here too. You can not blame that on Arabs right?

[ZingPao]

Originally Posted by Victor

I do have a lot of sympathy with what you say Zing, and to a large degree it is true what you say, but there are hard liners in every state, and both Arabs and Israelis have their fair share of extremist elements.


Take for example the rocketing of Israel - that is Evil and done by extremist elements and not all of the rockets are coming from the Arab side lets not forget that.

How can any decent state condone the bombing of civilian targets by F16s?


It is ALL EVIL - so to say the Israelis are some how "the victim" is only half the story.

The fact is:

The military industrial complex is busy stirring up trouble and stirring up business.


And it was the Israelis who broke this ceasefire lets not forget.

Remember who it was who trained and sold weapons to the Georgians to kill south Ossetians only two months ago? Its the same criminals at play here too. You can not blame that on Arabs right?

I would prefer world peace, but as you mentioned the military industrial complex likes money.

I find it odd that so many take up for the Islamics when they are so harsh to one another, especially their women.