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Old 12-20-2008, 06:35 PM
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Default Big Bang... Big Bullsh*t

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Redshift is an artifact of distance, when the light from a distant galaxy is passed thru a spectrometer it will exhibit a certain redshift, thus the absorption lines from Sulphur for instance, will be shifted toward the red end of the spectrum, all astronomical objects have Redshift including the Moon, according to a 1990’s article in Sky & Telescope Magazine.
The galaxies, and blobs of light from even more distant galaxies and quasars viewed on deep field images, are all red shifted in proportion to their linear distance, whether the image was taken near either of the Earth’s poles, or from along the equator. The fact that M31, the relatively nearby Andromeda Galaxy has blueshift, is because it is gravitationally bound together with the other galaxies in the local group.

They will eventually expand to become elliptical galaxies, making a subcluster typically seen in the middle of larger galactic clusters, nearby NGC 5128, called Centarus A is presently undergoing the transition process, from a spiral galaxy into an elliptical, so too will the home or Milky Way galaxy do the same. Hubble and co, who cackle on about the age of the universe expressed as a percentage of it’s present age, reckon Redshift indicates the universe is expanding after the explosion of a primal atom, that could only have been located right where good ol’ Earth is today, the Big Bang hypothesis.

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The Big Bangers are all idiots and stretcher case retards, whose impetus is the dumbing down of America. Redshift is the universe's distance scale, a class of object called a BL Lacerta object has no redshift, and remains a pinprick of light on even the deepest fields, is thought to be a tunnel shot of the energy beam from the active nucleus of a quasar. Modern binocular and image stabilized telescopes have identified a rim of matter surrounding some of the BL Lacerta points of light, which does exhibit Redshift, supporting that hypothesis.
Thus viewing a distant galaxy, with a Redshift of eight, between here and there is another galaxy with a RS of four, indicating it was speeding toward the more distant place. Thus from the more distant galaxy, our galaxy, the Milky Way would similarly have a RS of eight, so too would the intervening galaxy viewed from the more distant place have a RS of four, indicating it was speeding toward us at a pretty good clip.

So it can not be speeding in both directions, can it now!!! When confronted with that, the Big Bangers start on about balloons, and expanding space. Forget about balloons and expansion, Hubble was said to be a dictator, and the only person other than him who was allowed to look thru the two hundred inch Hale Telescope on Mount Palomar, was a mule skinner named Milton Humason. Hubble and Milt cooked up the Expanding Universe theory between the two of them, which is just so much hot air.

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Assume that most spiral galaxies that look the same are roughly the same size, thus a spiral galaxy that is one degree across, will be twice as distant as one two degrees across, similarly one that is half of one degree wide will be twice as far as the first, and four times further than the two degree wide specimen. Use this method to check the efficacy of Redshift as a distance scale, because as distance reduces the linear dimension constantly, so too does Redshift increase in proportion, thus the galaxy that is one half degree wide, has a RS twice that of the one degree wide specimen and four times that of the galaxy that is two degrees wide.
Blue shift is observable in the discs of rotating galaxies, thus the light from a distant galaxy will exhibit mean redshift in proportion to its linear distance, expanding the image further, as rotation brings parts toward us, they will be slightly blue shifted back toward the norm, similarly as rotation takes objects away, their light will be shifted so slightly even further toward the red part of the spectrum. The Hubble Space Telescope went into orbit with an incorrectly ground primary mirror, B’s of D’s were invested in building, storing and testing the HST prior to launch, and nobody had checked to see if the primary mirror was going to work.

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Where did the money go, spammers will tell you about what a great asset, and what a grand piece of hardware it is, it is not, it is a piece of junk. Who got the HST money, as well and the trillions missing from the Pentagon revealed September 10 2001.
Expanding Universe ...The greatest mathematical deception in Twentieth Century physics ...Falsification of the Hubble Humason Law, by Menahem Simhony.

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Menahem Simhony says: ...Unprejudiced, and honest scientists, who observe redshift values that depend on distance, would consider factors acting on light along this distance. These factors are absorption and gravitation. The redshifts they cause are roughly proportional to the distance crossed by light, because the numbers of non-linear absorption events and of massive stars increase with distance. Hence these two phenomena fit perfectly the Hubble-Humason Law.
Unfortunately for Natural Physics, some mathematicians in physics had long before decided that the universe is expanding, therefore celestial objects must run away from us. When they found out about the Hubble-Humason Redshifts, they decided that those must be Doppler redshifts, to serve as the first and only "experimental" proof of the expansion.

That was Act 1, for internal use. In Act 2, for the public, students, and media, the argumentation was turned around, to start with the barefaced lie, that "spectra of extragalaxial nebulae show large Doppler (!) redshifts". Then, that "these redshifts prove (!) that the nebulae run away from us", hence "the universe is expanding".

However, Doppler redshifts and blueshifts are proportional to the velocity of the emitter relative to the receiver of radiation. They have nothing to do with the distance to the emitter. Hence, Doppler redshifts do not fit the physical Hubble-Humason law of the proportionality of nebular redshifts to distance.

In Act 3, the law was therefore twisted (falsified!) to say that "the runaway velocities of extragalaxial nebulae are proportional to the distances to them". Thus, the farther a nebula the faster must the poor thing run away from us, just in order to fit the ideology.

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EPOLA: A New Approach to the Fine Structure of Matter and Space, Menahem Simhony, Retired Associate Professor, Physics Section 5, The Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel
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You seem to be making the grand assumption that the big theory is considered to be true - when in fact it is one of many theories. It is well known that the dark matter that surrounds galaxies and galactic clusters, bends light through very weak gravitational attraction and so throws at lot of doubt on the details of Hubble's theories (because the details of dark matter/energy are so unknown). This has been considered for decades.

Hubble-led big bang theory is briefly spoken of in the physics lessons of high school because it's simple i.e. it barely takes into account the multi-dimensionality (is that a real word?) of space. Cosmology at Uni level regards many theories.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:19 PM
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Smile Glad you now know.

Sure the Big Bang theory is wrong, just like a lot of other things you were given to get you through your school Brainwashing years.


However, it is a simplistic model to try and pass some of the ideas on to the next generation.

And to be honest it does a good job of being simple and to some extent partially true.

Well the big bang theory Expanded and so is our Universe, so OK at T-1 you had sod all and then at T+1 onwards to today you have you and everything you know plus lots lots more.

Its of course Bullshit on one level but how do you go about explaining to the general public that when the universe formed it not only spread out in space but in time also?

You live in Space-time of which can be moulded by the very material within it.

Why do you suppose the gravity of Earth is 6 times that of the Moon for example?


And then you have 9/10 of the matter & Energy which is only in gravitational contact with the fabric which you are constructed of.

Welcome to the real Universe Brother - Enjoy its wonders!
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