Activists condemn Tories' marriage plan

[Thinking Man's Idiot]

Activists condemn Tories' marriage plan

(Monday 17 November 2008)

by LOUISE NOUSRATPOUR






EQUALITY campaigners accused the Tories of launching a "stealth attack" on lone parents and same-sex couples on Monday after the party unveiled plans to strengthen marriage rights at the expense of other lifestyles.



Failed ex-Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith revealed plans to reform family laws to make pre-nuptial agreements legally binding and refuse cohabiting couples the same rights as those who marry.

State backing would also be given to classes to prepare people for tying the knot.


The interim report, from Mr Duncan Smith's Centre for Social Justice think-tank, advocates using the law and other official mechanisms to penalise "informal" relationships.


It vigorously opposes greater rights for cohabiting couples because they are "not compatible" with marriage values.


Peter Tatchell of gay rights group Outrage! accused Mr Duncan Smith of "implicitly discriminating" against same-sex couples.


"Yet again, the Conservatives are attempting to promote a 'traditional family values' agenda, which fails to take into account the huge diversity of family life in modern Britain," he said.


"Marriage is no guarantee of relationship happiness or a loving, secure environment for children.


"These proposals to prioritise and privilege marriage implicitly discriminate against same-sex couples because we are banned from marriage and Mr Duncan Smith hasn't indicated that, by marriage, he includes same-sex civil partnerships," he added.


General union GMB equality officer Kamaljeet Jandu condemned the proposals as a "stealth attack" on lone parents and alternative lifestyles.
"The essential message is that 'traditional marriages are good - everything else is bad'," he said.


"At a time when many people cohabit and have perfectly responsible, loving relationships without the formality of marriage and increasing number of civil partnerships, the statement from Mr Duncan Smith is an attack by stealth on alternative lifestyles.


"This smacks of a Britain Margaret Thatcher wanted to create."
Children's charity NCH official Shaun Kelly rejected Tory claims that marriage would provide a safe and secure environment for children.


"Sadly, child abuse can happen in all sorts of families and this can involve parents who are married," she argued.


"The Baby P case has highlighted the need to keep the needs of a child at the centre of all decision-making around their care. This needs to be the absolute priority and strengthening marriage does not, in itself, contribute to this.


"There is no 'one size fits all' approach when it comes to positive parenting and providing a loving home for a child."

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The loony left will be wanting tax brakes for Flashers next.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, show your commitment to "The Family" by giving Chocolate dippers and fluffy cup lickers the same rights as non perverts.

[Thinking Man's Idiot]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The loony left will be wanting tax brakes for Flashers next.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, show your commitment to "The Family" by giving Chocolate dippers and fluffy cup lickers the same rights as non perverts.

I get the impression you're a perfect human being and we are just vermin. I think that is the route of the problem.

[ZingPao]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The loony left will be wanting tax brakes for Flashers next.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, show your commitment to "The Family" by giving Chocolate dippers and fluffy cup lickers the same rights as non perverts.

I have to admit I like the new slurs here you have introduced. Fluffy cup licker is pretty good.

What would be wrong with some dippers or lickers giving a loving home to children that would not have one other wise?

Or do you think these kids would be better off in conservative christian home where they get the shit beat out of them for being unique or different?

I don't see people like you rushing out to make things better for these kids. You just beat up people that do try to make things better for these kids.

Who really is the vermin here?

[ZingPao]

And have you ever noticed how people that are against abortion will go to great lengths to terrorize woman to not have abortions? Or how they feel justifed in blowing up clinics? However, do you ever see them adopt or give any attention to unwanted children? Of course not! Caring for children would involve love whereas terrorizing woman and blowing up clinics involes hate. Think about it.

Everyone has the ability to do a good job regardless of their personal gender flavour and I think two chocolate dippers or two fluffy cup lickers can be as good as any bolt, nut or nut and bolt type family unit.

But should the state promote that alternative as an equal to the more traditional type family, my answer is a clear NO!

The children's needs are paramount, not some political correctness or social experiment. Diversity is inevitable and it should not be pointed at and prodded and/or Advertised.

But should all families be supported regardless of their components - YES!


Promoting and Supporting are not exactly the same!

[Knight of the Word]

Promoting and Supporting are not exactly the same! That is true, but shouldn't the playing field be equal. For too long we have been subjected to moral religious dogma, it is time to move beyond the hypocrisy and treat all humans with respect, regardless of their preferred lifestyles. When one segment of society continues to shove their belief system down the throats of others, someone needs to step up and say no, even if it means changing laws are even promoting their opportunity.

[ZingPao]

"......and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened." John F. Kennedy

If I support a "Conventional System" and not an "Unconventional system" that is not the same as ATTACKING the "Unconventional System"

There are room for all, but the preferred system is the one chosen to be promoted by the Torats.

And in case one has forgotten, it is the natural biological choice also.

[Thinking Man's Idiot]

Gay Marriage: A Basic Right! A Just Demand!

"I know what can happen if you really don't have marriage equality under the law and a lot of the rights that are bestowed on heterosexuals just for being married are just not granted. I know what can happen to you in a hospital, like my partner's dying and I can't come in the room, or my second cousin, who I haven't seen in 20 years, can come and take the house we built with our bare hands. It's not ok, it's not fair, it's not right and I would even say it's amoral."

- A Black lesbian speaking to Revolution at a protest at the Mormon temple in Oakland On November 4, after a vicious, multi-million dollar campaign spearheaded by right-wing Christian organizations, Proposition 8 passed, changing the California Constitution to declare, "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized," eliminating the right of gays and lesbians to marry. A fundamental human right was stripped away from millions of people in the state.