Freemasonry + the left

[Cleef]

I've been doing quite alot of research lately into some of the major figures of anarchism + communism and was quite suprised to find that many of them were freemasons including Proudhon + Bakunin and it was also highly suspected that marx was and that castro is too (due to the fact that much of his office consists of known masons)

The answer i am looking for really as i cannot seem to work it out is why would so called anarchists and communists, who are against a hierarchical society join a right wing hierarchical orgainsation which attempts to keep the status quo?

[Nostalgia]

Hi Cleef, is there any possibility that you could post some of the links to the information that you have found here, so that others that might be interested might be able to have a look at it?
Curios minds might like to know.

[Cleef]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-...on#cite_note-2

"In 1847 he left this employment, and finally settled in Paris, where he was now becoming celebrated as a leader of innovation. In this year he also became a Freemason"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s#cite_note-24

"Mikhail Bakunin, Revolutionist, Lodge Il Progresso Sociale, Florence 1864"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_symbolism

"The first recorded use of the A in a circle by anarchists was by the Federal Council of Spain of the International Workers Association. This was set up by the freemason, Giuseppe Fanelli in 1868.[12] It predates its adoption by anarchists as it was used as a symbol by freemasons amongst others"

[jamiedb]

Cleef, you're onto a great question here, but entering mind-bending territory, too. "Abandon hope, all ye who enter!"

I only recently stumbled onto a similar "contradiction" myself - the deep involvement of Morgan-Rockefeller-City of London banking interests in funding Trotsky and Lenin, including the bizarre story of William Boyce Thompson, director of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, who led a Red Cross "mission" to Russia in 1917 that did nothing but promote and scheme for the Bolsheviks, causing the handful of doctors and nurses they brought along to go home in disgust. After the Bolsheviks took power, Thompson returned to the US and toured the country praising the socialist achievement.

See:
http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/...?Article=Books

for

Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton (1974, 12 parts)
How western capitalists funded Lenin, the Bolsheviks, and the Soviet Union

and

Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton (1976, 14 parts)
How western capitalists funded Hitler and National Socialism

As you may be aware from your reading, US-UK banks and bankers are legendary centers of Freemasonic power and influence.

There is a (not coincidental) point that we must keep in mind when trying to understand the operations of Freemasonry: Ultimately, left-right ideologies, faith, and morality are irrelevant to them, except as exploitable control systems. Initiates to the highest degrees renounce their submission to any faith, morality, or creed and pledge total commitment to "the order", ultimately - as most accounts claim - to Lucifer, the "light giver", and his new world order.

So history is (once you know what to look for!) studded with examples of elite wealth control, infiltration, and co-optation of political movements across the spectrum. We also find periods when extremist groups seemed to receive special attention from Freemasonic-rooted foundations and cabals. And many examples of false flag attacks for a variety of purposes, as well as enemy-creation ("war on terror") and incorporated leftists turning into tools of the money power, domestically and around the world.

Consider the 1980s Gladio revelations in Italy, which peeled the cover off a long-running Europe-wide NATO-CIA operation penetrating and impersonating left-wing groups like the Red Brigades for psy-ops purposes. Sorry no link - just search for: Gladio NATO CIA to get a quick primer. Or read Webster Tarpley's "9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA" for a good overview.

Nothing is as it seems in this world - one of their prime objectives.

Curioser and curioser!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ScyJ5TlxfeM

[Thinking Man's Idiot]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Curioser and curioser!

HaHa! Thanks. It gets lonely here sometimes.

The masons I know look very smart in their puritan colours, but they're not the brightest pins in the box. I've always wondered at our respect and awe for the 'talent' of selling something on for more than you paid for it.

good stuff