Comments on: China’s police-state http://rinf.com/alt-news/war-terrorism/china%e2%80%99s-police-state/6151/ Internet marketing News Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=6817 By: Paco http://rinf.com/alt-news/war-terrorism/china%e2%80%99s-police-state/6151/#comment-467432 Paco Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:02:00 +0000 http://rinf.com/alt-news/?p=6151#comment-467432 Having just spent a month in Xinjiang, from mid June to mid-July 2011, I can readily attest to the province being a police state. Two friends and myself were independent travelers trying to bird and see wildlife around the province, but were continually prevented from doing so by the police and military. We were hauled into three different police stations, had our passports checked at 30-40 police roadblocks, were denied rooms at 10-12 hotels because they were not officially recognized as "tourist hotels" by the PSB-the Public Security Bureau. We were warned by our contacts in Xinjiang to not talk about anything even remotely political. Everyone in the province seemed incredibly paranoid about the police, except for a few Uighurs who simply had had enough. The real problem isn't the repression of the native population. It is the huge flood of Han Chinese that is simply overwhelming the province. Soon the Uighurs, the Kazakhs, the Mongols, the Tibetans, etc.,  will be such a tiny minority, that nothing they do will matter. The most disturbing thing about our trip, was the utter environmental devastation we witnessed everywhere, even in their supposed "natural parks, like the famous Kanas reserve. Despite the police and military, we were able to travel over most of the province north and west of the Taklamakan Desert. We saw nary an acre of the province that was undisturbed by humans, with thousands of acres simply raped to bare rock and gravel. Every river and stream was completely eroded and silted. We were even told by a guide at one of the natural parks, when we asked where we could see wildlife, that no, the wild animals had been removed so that they would not "eat the tourists".  One can only conclude that all of this "progress" and devastation is being fueled by the United States and other countries buying all of their products from China. Yes, we are the cause of this, but most people don't know or care. Most people who travel to China do so on packaged and guided tours, where you are shown only what they want you to see. If you saw the real China, and tried to talk to the real Chinese people, and its minorities, you would realize what a horrible and  dangerous place this really is. Having just spent a month in Xinjiang, from mid June to mid-July 2011, I can readily attest to the province being a police state. Two friends and myself were independent travelers trying to bird and see wildlife around the province, but were continually prevented from doing so by the police and military. We were hauled into three different police stations, had our passports checked at 30-40 police roadblocks, were denied rooms at 10-12 hotels because they were not officially recognized as “tourist hotels” by the PSB-the Public Security Bureau. We were warned by our contacts in Xinjiang to not talk about anything even remotely political. Everyone in the province seemed incredibly paranoid about the police, except for a few Uighurs who simply had had enough.
The real problem isn’t the repression of the native population. It is the huge flood of Han Chinese that is simply overwhelming the province. Soon the Uighurs, the Kazakhs, the Mongols, the Tibetans, etc.,  will be such a tiny minority, that nothing they do will matter.
The most disturbing thing about our trip, was the utter environmental devastation we witnessed everywhere, even in their supposed “natural parks, like the famous Kanas reserve. Despite the police and military, we were able to travel over most of the province north and west of the Taklamakan Desert. We saw nary an acre of the province that was undisturbed by humans, with thousands of acres simply raped to bare rock and gravel. Every river and stream was completely eroded and silted. We were even told by a guide at one of the natural parks, when we asked where we could see wildlife, that no, the wild animals had been removed so that they would not “eat the tourists”.  One can only conclude that all of this “progress” and devastation is being fueled by the United States and other countries buying all of their products from China. Yes, we are the cause of this, but most people don’t know or care. Most people who travel to China do so on packaged and guided tours, where you are shown only what they want you to see. If you saw the real China, and tried to talk to the real Chinese people, and its minorities, you would realize what a horrible and  dangerous place this really is.

]]> By: Xiang Wu II http://rinf.com/alt-news/war-terrorism/china%e2%80%99s-police-state/6151/#comment-288722 Xiang Wu II Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:42:16 +0000 http://rinf.com/alt-news/?p=6151#comment-288722 As I agree, you must learn that China should be free. From the rulers. Let the Voice of the people be heard. XII As I agree, you must learn that China should be free. From the rulers. Let the Voice of the people be heard.

XII

]]> By: PaxAmerican http://rinf.com/alt-news/war-terrorism/china%e2%80%99s-police-state/6151/#comment-285365 PaxAmerican Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:04:01 +0000 http://rinf.com/alt-news/?p=6151#comment-285365 John, While I don't disagree with your article, I think it downplays the bigger picture of US policy towards China. Some of the goals for maintaining US dominance seem to include cutting off resources and promoting domestic unrest. Supporting ethnic unrest in Western China is just one part of this, along with groups such as Falun Gong. Overthrowing friendly regimes under the pretext of human rights is another aspect. Just as the main Chechen terrorist lives in DC on the taxpayers' tab, so, too, does the current Uighur activist. John,

While I don't disagree with your article, I think it downplays the bigger picture of US policy towards China. Some of the goals for maintaining US dominance seem to include cutting off resources and promoting domestic unrest. Supporting ethnic unrest in Western China is just one part of this, along with groups such as Falun Gong. Overthrowing friendly regimes under the pretext of human rights is another aspect.

Just as the main Chechen terrorist lives in DC on the taxpayers' tab, so, too, does the current Uighur activist.

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