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		<title>By: DeWayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeWayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true there were circumstances of secular Jewish involved in the Holocaust, and may be said responcible in some part, yet it cannot be denied many (many) innocent Jewish suffered and died as a result. Whether of disease and starvation makes absolutely no difference. 
 
This does not make Zionist&#039;s of this day innocent, nor by taking a legitimate anti-semitism will it white wash their own complicity. Nor may they denigrate all that report evil done by secular and misguided Zionist&#039;s, the devout and orthodox Jewish among those obedient to G_d that condemn Zionist evil. 
 
As a Christian I am thankful and praise the true Jewish obedient to their G_d and Torah, Genesis acknowledging that because of their obedience many as myself came to know their God. 
 
I appreciate the 3000 year old generations of Jewish that refuse under false flag actions into being forced to leave Iran, and warn others that slander with untrue charges such as &quot;Wipe Israel Off the Map&quot; will bring judgment unto themselves. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true there were circumstances of secular Jewish involved in the Holocaust, and may be said responcible in some part, yet it cannot be denied many (many) innocent Jewish suffered and died as a result. Whether of disease and starvation makes absolutely no difference.</p>
<p>This does not make Zionist&#039;s of this day innocent, nor by taking a legitimate anti-semitism will it white wash their own complicity. Nor may they denigrate all that report evil done by secular and misguided Zionist&#039;s, the devout and orthodox Jewish among those obedient to G_d that condemn Zionist evil.</p>
<p>As a Christian I am thankful and praise the true Jewish obedient to their G_d and Torah, Genesis acknowledging that because of their obedience many as myself came to know their God.</p>
<p>I appreciate the 3000 year old generations of Jewish that refuse under false flag actions into being forced to leave Iran, and warn others that slander with untrue charges such as &quot;Wipe Israel Off the Map&quot; will bring judgment unto themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: J M Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>J M Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the articulate presentation -- I am always interested in what my friends in the &#8220;Holocaust Industry&#8221; have to say. 
However, they are merely conceding defeat in debate, when they persecute historians and scientists who research atrocity propaganda from the World Wars. 
Until my &#8220;Holocauster&#8221; friends can produce empirical, forensic or documentary evidence that the Germans attempted to exterminate Jews in &#8220;death camps&#8221; and &#8220;homicidal gas chambers&#8221; during World War II, my response must continue to be: &#8220;What &#8216;Holocaust&#8217; do you have in mind?&#8221; 
During the 20th Century there were numerous &#8220;Holocausts&#8221; of six million, according to the New York Times... (not reflected in world population statistics.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the articulate presentation &#8212; I am always interested in what my friends in the &ldquo;Holocaust Industry&rdquo; have to say.</p>
<p>However, they are merely conceding defeat in debate, when they persecute historians and scientists who research atrocity propaganda from the World Wars.</p>
<p>Until my &ldquo;Holocauster&rdquo; friends can produce empirical, forensic or documentary evidence that the Germans attempted to exterminate Jews in &ldquo;death camps&rdquo; and &ldquo;homicidal gas chambers&rdquo; during World <a href="http://rinf.com/alt-news/category/war-terrorism/" >War</a> II, my response must continue to be: &ldquo;What &lsquo;Holocaust&rsquo; do you have in mind?&rdquo;</p>
<p>During the 20th Century there were numerous &ldquo;Holocausts&rdquo; of six million, according to the New York Times&#8230; (not reflected in world population statistics.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Popovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan Popovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SR &amp; PA above are perfect illustrations of the problem. Unspecified &quot;everyone knows&quot; and the vague &quot;endless attacks&quot; are the common rhetoric of hate.  
 
So Jonathan, Maasanov and all others, do you stand with the haters or against them?  No one group that stands against them is perfect, but each has its strengths and in the end the whole is greater than the parts.  Carping at others who fight-the-fight is unproductive and just what the adversaries of civilization and reason want. Even when I disagree with my allies I like them far better than my enemies. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SR &amp; PA above are perfect illustrations of the problem. Unspecified &quot;everyone knows&quot; and the vague &quot;endless attacks&quot; are the common rhetoric of hate.  </p>
<p>So Jonathan, Maasanov and all others, do you stand with the haters or against them?  No one group that stands against them is perfect, but each has its strengths and in the end the whole is greater than the parts.  Carping at others who fight-the-fight is unproductive and just what the adversaries of civilization and reason want. Even when I disagree with my allies I like them far better than my enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The endless attack on Christians by those who called &quot;Crucify Him!&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The endless attack on Christians by those who called &quot;Crucify Him!&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: &quot;Nazi&quot; stands for National Zionism. Everyone knows this and we all know why. Keep up the great work you fools. Free Palistine, smash Zionism! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: &quot;Nazi&quot; stands for National Zionism. Everyone knows this and we all know why. Keep up the great work you fools. Free Palistine, smash Zionism!</p>
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		<title>By: maasanova</title>
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		<dc:creator>maasanova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I got out of this was the memory of the Holocuast&#8482; is fading. How can it be fading when we constantly hear about it all the time?  
 
And now I guess NGO&#039;s like the ADL are now going to act as judge jury and executioner when it comes down to things they don&#039;t like on the internet. 
 
How do you define hate? Hate is an emotion.  
 
Hate did not lead to pogroms, actions did. It was the actions of individuals who would not conform with the ideas and culture at that time, people who would not assimilate for whatever reason. That is what happens when a culture cannot assimilate into the bounds of society. 
 
What we are now seeing is the same pattern of people that will not conform within the bounds of Western Civilization. The Israeli government is committing attrocities that towards the Palestinians that are no different than what the Nazis did.  
 
There is no immediate peril for the Jews. This is an attempt to separate Jews from the rest of the world, and it has always been this way. This us-against-them mentality is what fosters this paranoia.  
 
So now they want to close the web. Great. 
 
A few addendums: 
 
Zionists is not code for antisemistism. Some Jews (like former AIPAC lobbyist and current CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer call themselves Zionists) and gentiles alike ( like VP-elect Joe Biden) call themselves Zionists. 
 
Zionists will never hold open debates with their detractors, they only attemp to stifle them with terms like antisemites and conspiracy theorists. Zionists are a direct threat to the soverignty and the Constitution of the United States of America, and anyone who has done their homework will know. 
 
Here is a blog post that I made regarding the ADL: 
 
How many Americans do you think are aware that the ADL is a direct threat to their constitutional freedoms? 
 
Do you think they know that the ADL attemps to stifle free speech by labeling individuals antisemites for criticizing Israel and anyone who questions the official Jewish story of the Holocaust? That they form campaigns to get websites they don&#039;t like removed from the internet? 
 
Do you think they know about the questionable and criminal nature of the ADL? That the ADL spent millions to keep a trial from going to court, but eventually settled to avoid prosecution for spying on over 10,000 Americans? 
 
Maybe you can ask the people do they really think it&#039;s fair when Jews get caught staging hate crimes that they never get charged with hate crimes. 
 
Finally, maybe you can inform the people that after being a criminal menace to innocent Americans, that the ADL has the chutzpah to train American law inforcement to be ruthless and  violent thugs. 
 
For those unitiated with the blustering, twisted diatribe of this hatemonger you can listen to it here. 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/details/Anti-defamationLeague-MythOfTheJewishLobby&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.archive.org/details/Anti-defamationLea...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I got out of this was the memory of the Holocuast&trade; is fading. How can it be fading when we constantly hear about it all the time? </p>
<p>And now I guess NGO&#039;s like the ADL are now going to act as judge jury and executioner when it comes down to things they don&#039;t like on the internet.</p>
<p>How do you define hate? Hate is an emotion. </p>
<p>Hate did not lead to pogroms, actions did. It was the actions of individuals who would not conform with the ideas and culture at that time, people who would not assimilate for whatever reason. That is what happens when a culture cannot assimilate into the bounds of society.</p>
<p>What we are now seeing is the same pattern of people that will not conform within the bounds of Western Civilization. The Israeli government is committing attrocities that towards the Palestinians that are no different than what the Nazis did. </p>
<p>There is no immediate peril for the Jews. This is an attempt to separate Jews from the rest of the world, and it has always been this way. This us-against-them mentality is what fosters this paranoia. </p>
<p>So now they want to close the web. Great.</p>
<p>A few addendums:</p>
<p>Zionists is not code for antisemistism. Some Jews (like former AIPAC lobbyist and current CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer call themselves Zionists) and gentiles alike ( like VP-elect Joe Biden) call themselves Zionists.</p>
<p>Zionists will never hold open debates with their detractors, they only attemp to stifle them with terms like antisemites and conspiracy theorists. Zionists are a direct threat to the soverignty and the Constitution of the United States of America, and anyone who has done their homework will know.</p>
<p>Here is a blog post that I made regarding the ADL:</p>
<p>How many Americans do you think are aware that the ADL is a direct threat to their constitutional freedoms?</p>
<p>Do you think they know that the ADL attemps to stifle free speech by labeling individuals antisemites for criticizing Israel and anyone who questions the official Jewish story of the Holocaust? That they form campaigns to get websites they don&#039;t like removed from the internet?</p>
<p>Do you think they know about the questionable and criminal nature of the ADL? That the ADL spent millions to keep a trial from going to court, but eventually settled to avoid prosecution for spying on over 10,000 Americans?</p>
<p>Maybe you can ask the people do they really think it&#039;s fair when Jews get caught staging hate crimes that they never get charged with hate crimes.</p>
<p>Finally, maybe you can inform the people that after being a criminal menace to innocent Americans, that the ADL has the chutzpah to train American law inforcement to be ruthless and  violent thugs.</p>
<p>For those unitiated with the blustering, twisted diatribe of this hatemonger you can listen to it here.</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/Anti-defamationLeague-MythOfTheJewishLobby" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/details/Anti-defamationLea&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ADL is not really doing much on this front.  The true leaders are the Jewish Internet Defense Force: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thejidf.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thejidf.org&lt;/a&gt;  
 
They fight antisemitism and Islamic terrorism on the web and, contrary to the ADL, they are not for land concessions and do no promote a liberal political agenda. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ADL is not really doing much on this front.  The true leaders are the Jewish Internet Defense Force:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.thejidf.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.thejidf.org</a>  </p>
<p>They fight antisemitism and Islamic <a href="http://rinf.com/alt-news/category/war-terrorism/" >terrorism</a> on the web and, contrary to the ADL, they are not for land concessions and do no promote a liberal <a href="http://rinf.com/alt-news/category/politics/" >political</a> agenda.</p>
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