Comments on: An Economy Organized to Make Revolution and Meet Human Needs http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/an-economy-organized-to-make-revolution-and-meet-human-needs/5026/ Internet marketing News Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:04:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=6590 By: Choupal India » Blog Archive » Internet Marketing Success: Why Learning How to Succeed Makes You Fail More http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/an-economy-organized-to-make-revolution-and-meet-human-needs/5026/#comment-466443 Choupal India » Blog Archive » Internet Marketing Success: Why Learning How to Succeed Makes You Fail More Wed, 01 Dec 2010 02:17:42 +0000 http://rinf.com/alt-news/?p=5026#comment-466443 [...] An Economy Organized to Make Revolution and Meet Human Needs [...] [...] An Economy Organized to Make Revolution and Meet Human Needs [...]

]]> By: A. Git http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/an-economy-organized-to-make-revolution-and-meet-human-needs/5026/#comment-184406 A. Git Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:30:50 +0000 http://rinf.com/alt-news/?p=5026#comment-184406 I'm aware of the end of the state. But I do not either deny that all production is socialised, and a social structure needs to function. If production is really there to serve the needs of humanity, then it will have to be organised in some fashion, and, a bottom-up structure of democratic centralism is the only true democratic way to organise production. This would be the dictatorship of the people's will, and not the dictatorship of capital-which is/was responsible for the death of millions in Russia, China, Korea, Vietnam, Chile, Iraq, Afghanistan and the cause of poverty and misery and suffering of billions in sweat shops here and now around the third world. Is a tribe, a community or a factory a state? Is not the wage system modern surfdom? How will you ship your goods around the world to where they are needed if some sort of structure, and yes, subordination, is not in place? What use will anyone be to anyone else without consensus and a structure to implement world democracy and justice? I’m aware of the end of the state.
But I do not either deny that all production is socialised, and a social structure needs to function. If production is really there to serve the needs of humanity, then it will have to be organised in some fashion, and, a bottom-up structure of democratic centralism is the only true democratic way to organise production. This would be the dictatorship of the people’s will, and not the dictatorship of capital-which is/was responsible for the death of millions in Russia, China, Korea, Vietnam, Chile, Iraq, Afghanistan and the cause of poverty and misery and suffering of billions in sweat shops here and now around the third world. Is a tribe, a community or a factory a state? Is not the wage system modern surfdom? How will you ship your goods around the world to where they are needed if some sort of structure, and yes, subordination, is not in place? What use will anyone be to anyone else without consensus and a structure to implement world democracy and justice?

]]> By: bumbling anarchist idiot http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/an-economy-organized-to-make-revolution-and-meet-human-needs/5026/#comment-184399 bumbling anarchist idiot Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:59:47 +0000 http://rinf.com/alt-news/?p=5026#comment-184399 A. Git, Anarchy would be the absence of any power structure, which is what my "rant" was about. Did you read it? No power structure means NO CAPITALISM. It means people make their own choices. I said people should take control of their own lives and make their own decisions, which can't happen under capitalism. True socialism has no central leadership either, so if you understood what I was saying about people being their own leaders then you would realize that anarchy is the only thing that will give us that choice, not a revolution under a "benevolent leader" like so many socialists are hoping for (maybe you were hoping for Obama, who's a stooge for the elite that would like to maintain their grip on humanity). Are you against people making their own choices in a state of anarchy? Would you rather have some core of socialist leadership making decisions for the people? If you chose the latter then you are a sheep, and all sheep are eventually led to slaughter, so have fun in the faux socialist system/new world order slaughterhouse my friend. A. Git,
Anarchy would be the absence of any power structure, which is what my “rant” was about. Did you read it? No power structure means NO CAPITALISM. It means people make their own choices. I said people should take control of their own lives and make their own decisions, which can’t happen under capitalism. True socialism has no central leadership either, so if you understood what I was saying about people being their own leaders then you would realize that anarchy is the only thing that will give us that choice, not a revolution under a “benevolent leader” like so many socialists are hoping for (maybe you were hoping for Obama, who’s a stooge for the elite that would like to maintain their grip on humanity). Are you against people making their own choices in a state of anarchy? Would you rather have some core of socialist leadership making decisions for the people? If you chose the latter then you are a sheep, and all sheep are eventually led to slaughter, so have fun in the faux socialist system/new world order slaughterhouse my friend.

]]> By: A. Git http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/an-economy-organized-to-make-revolution-and-meet-human-needs/5026/#comment-184190 A. Git Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:14:41 +0000 http://rinf.com/alt-news/?p=5026#comment-184190 Dear Mr. 'Anarchist', What a great rant in support of neo-liberal capitalism. In fact, I can't tell you apart. What is your 'anarchism'? Egotism? Wage systems and theft? Excuse me sir, you are no 'anarchist'. You are my jailer. Dear Mr. 'Anarchist',

What a great rant in support of neo-liberal capitalism. In fact, I can't tell you apart. What is your 'anarchism'? Egotism? Wage systems and theft? Excuse me sir, you are no 'anarchist'. You are my jailer.

]]> By: bumbling anarchist i http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/an-economy-organized-to-make-revolution-and-meet-human-needs/5026/#comment-184078 bumbling anarchist i Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:00:46 +0000 http://rinf.com/alt-news/?p=5026#comment-184078 People can not be "lead" to freedom, nor will they be emancipated under the core leadership that you describe as being "necessary" for a revolution. Millions were murdered in China to accomplish the goal that you seem to think is so necessary for America to acomplish. The multi-national oligarchy used China as a social experiment and model for what they'd like to accomplish worldwide; population control, forced labor under the guidance of the state, and the ability to guide public opinion with economic control. It would be impossible to become emancipated under any form of leadership. There is no "system" that can free humanity. Only anarchy has the ability to remove our chains, for it would force individuals to make the decision to take control of their own lives or revert back to the instinct to be sheep and be "lead" by a power that will most certainly become corrupt over time no matter how benevolent it appears to be. Either way, humanity will get what it deserves when the time comes to make that decision. People can not be "lead" to freedom, nor will they be emancipated under the core leadership that you describe as being "necessary" for a revolution. Millions were murdered in China to accomplish the goal that you seem to think is so necessary for America to acomplish. The multi-national oligarchy used China as a social experiment and model for what they'd like to accomplish worldwide; population control, forced labor under the guidance of the state, and the ability to guide public opinion with economic control. It would be impossible to become emancipated under any form of leadership. There is no "system" that can free humanity. Only anarchy has the ability to remove our chains, for it would force individuals to make the decision to take control of their own lives or revert back to the instinct to be sheep and be "lead" by a power that will most certainly become corrupt over time no matter how benevolent it appears to be. Either way, humanity will get what it deserves when the time comes to make that decision.

]]> By: A. Git http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/an-economy-organized-to-make-revolution-and-meet-human-needs/5026/#comment-183910 A. Git Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:16:38 +0000 http://rinf.com/alt-news/?p=5026#comment-183910 Glad to see this on the front page. Good luck. Glad to see this on the front page. Good luck.

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